Wednesday, September 29, 2010

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Tombstone Tuesday - Mary Katherine Riickert

Ramsey Taylor Cemetery, Rockcastle County, Kentucky
Mary K.
Daughter of Geo. W. & M. A. Riickert
Born Aug. 30, 1891
Died June 10, 1892

Mary Katherine was the daughter of George W. Riickert and Martha Ann "Mollie" Taylor.

Sunday, September 26, 2010

This Week in the Family History - September 26 - October 2

26 Sep 1768 (242 years ago) - Sarah Nash Dobyns died, probably in Virginia. Sarah was the daughter of Thomas Nash and the widow of Charles Dobyns.

26 Sep 1892 (118 years ago) - Charlotte Jackson Lanier died in Fredonia, Chambers County, Alabama. Charlotte was the daughter of Samuel Jackson and Lavinia Malone and the widow of William Washington Lanier. [There is some question about the date Charlotte died. Her headstone has this date but a family Bible belonging to her grandson lists the date as 20 Oct 1892.]

27 Sep 1751 (259 years ago) - Henry Goodloe married Frances Diana Kemp in Caroline County, Virginia. Henry was the son of George Goodloe and Diana Minor. Frances' parents are unknown.

27 Sep 1904 (106 years ago) - John William McCauley married Verda Waller Hankins in Hopkins County, Kentucky. Will was the son of Joseph Smith Lanier and Nancy Jane Bennett. Verda was the daughter of Thomas Leander "Lee" Hankins and Samantha Angeline Petty.

Saturday, September 25, 2010

Surname Saturday - Dabney

Today's surname is Dabney, the name of my 7th great-grandmother.

5. Verda Waller Hankins
10. Thomas Leander Hankins
21. Isabella Jane Goodloe
42. John Emerson Goodloe
84. Henry Lewis Goodloe
169. Dorothy Waller
339. Agnes Carr

679. Mary Dabney
Born 22 Jan 1687/88
Married Capt. Thomas Carr, 1704
Died 7 Sep 1748, Virginia

1358. Cornelius Dabney
Born abt. 1640
Married Susannah (maiden name unknown)
Died abt. 1693

Click on the links above for sources and possibly additional information on each ancestor and their families. If you have a connection, e-mail me.

Thursday, September 23, 2010

Treasure Chest Thursday - Newspapers (Part 7)

More newspaper treasures.

From the Mt. Vernon Signal, Mt. Vernon, Rockcastle County, Kentucky:

19 May 1899: Tom Taylor of this town tells the following story of how he got his wife to dig up the garden shortly after they were married: He says he sallied forth one morning with spade and hoe and after scratching around awhile came in to wash the dirt off a nickel and a dime; he had struck it rich he said. "Struck what?" replied Mrs. Taylor. "An old camp ground don't you see the money?" replied Tom. Back to the garden he went whistling "Sweet Marie." Directly he came in showing a quarter, saying he could afford to take a nap, having gained enough for one day anyhow. When he awoke his wife had the whole plot of ground turned over and had found only a brass breeches button. She did not know that Tom had salted the mine.

William Thomas "Tom" Taylor was the son of James Francis Taylor and Margaret E. Ramsey and the brother of my great-grandfather, John C. Taylor. His wife was Mary Elizabeth Fletcher

Tom and Mary Elizabeth had been married for 19 years by the time this story ran in the newspaper so I guess she had long since forgiven him and had probably heard this story told many times over the years.

These clips were found using the searchable newspaper collection at Kentuckiana Digital LibraryKentucky papers in this collection are also available through the Library of Congress' Chronicling America(Both of these sites are free.)

Tuesday, September 21, 2010

Tombstone Tuesday - Emma and Margy Taylor

Ramsey-Taylor Cemetery, Renfro Valley, Rockcastle County, Kentucky

Born Dec. 20 1896 - Died Sep. 28, 1902

Born Feb. 13, 1904 - Died Sep. 13, 1907

These matching tombstones are for the young daughters of Josiah Love Taylor and Mary Alice Kirby (even though both markers have Taylor spelled Tayler). Joe, Alice and 5 of their 8 children are all buried in the same row at the Ramsey-Taylor Cemetery.

Sunday, September 19, 2010

Mystery Monday - Who Are They?

Every family has them - those photos of people no one can identify. I always scan them because they are either relatives or close friends to someone in the family. I've even had a bit of luck figuring out a few, usually when someone else has a picture of the same person and they either know who they were or have a name on their picture. I've decided to start posting these mystery photos. Maybe someone out there can identify them.

This picture was in a collection of photos belonging to Mary Elizabeth Taylor Wagner. She was the daughter of Logan Taylor (1891-1939) and Lula Owens (1892-1958). The man in this picture is most likely a Taylor. Pictures of Logan, his uncle, John C. Taylor, and his grandfather, James Francis Taylor, show they all had the same shaped face. 

This is definitely not Logan and Lula. Logan was the son of William Thomas "Tom" Taylor (1856-1904) and Mary Elizabeth Fletcher (1860-1919). There aren't any known pictures of Tom but the woman in this picture is definitely not Mary - besides, Logan's sister was 10 years older than him and his brother 5 years younger so the family makeup doesn't work for them. Logan's brother, Gene never married and had no children so it's not him. 

Tom was the son of James Francis "Jim" Taylor (1830-1894) and Margaret E. Ramsey (1840-1892) and they had 5 other sons. The man in this picture is definitely not Tom's brothers, John, Bob or App. That leaves Joe and Milt as possibilities. Milt had a daughter and son but the son was 8 years older than the daughter and since the daughter appears to be older than the son in this picture that rules out Milt leaving us with Joe. 

Josiah Love "Joe" Taylor and his wife, Mary Alice Kirby, had 8 children but if the picture was made late 1902/early 1903, they only had two children living at that time, a daughter and a son. In that timeframe, Joe would have been 44, Alice 33, Mallie 12 and Tommy 10 so they are a possibility. Or are they? The picture below is believed by their descendants to be Alice. The bonnet makes it almost impossible to tell if she could be the woman in the mystery picture.

James Francis Taylor had one brother (Robert) and four half brothers (Andrew, John, William and Thomas). The makeup of this family doesn't match with Robert's family, William's family or Thomas' family (no time period when they had just a son and daughter in the age range of the children in the picture). There was a picture of Andrew, his wife and 5 children in this collection which was identified with names so it's not Andrew.  I don't know anything about John beyond his wife's name so can't rule him out.

So, this could be Logan's uncle, Josiah Love Taylor, or his father's half-uncle, John Taylor. It could also be some Taylor cousin or even a Ramsey (Logan's grandmother and great-grandmother's family). All I know for sure is that it's not the people I was able to rule out. 

Mystery Photo courtesy of Gayle Wagner Evans, daughter of Mary Elizabeth Taylor Wagner. Photo of Alice Kirby Taylor courtesy of Joy Talbott House. Click on the links above for more information about these families.

This Week in the Family History - September 19 - 25

20 Sep 1803 (207 years ago) - Alfred Owens was born in Wilkes County, North Carolina. He was the son of David Owens and Winefred Mullins.

20 Sep 1857 (153 years ago) - John R. Petty married Margaret E. Thomas in Whitfield County, Georgia. John's parents are unknown. Margaret was the daughter of Jesse Thomas and Rebecca (maiden name unknown).

21 Sep 1759 (251 years ago) - David Owens was born in Halifax County, Virginia. He was the son of William Owen.

24 Sep 1845 (165 years ago) - Elizabeth Wright Fox died in Kentucky, probably Hopkins County. Elizabeth was the wife of Titus Fox. Her parents are unknown.

Saturday, September 18, 2010

Saturday Night Genealogy Fun - The Time Machine

Randy Seaver over at Genea-Musings has posted this week's mission for some Saturday Night Genealogy Fun.
1) Determine which event in your ancestral history that you would love to be a witness to via a Time Machine. Assume that you could observe the event, but not participate in it.
2) Tell us about it in a blog post of your own, in a comment to this blog post, or in a comment on Facebook.
Oh, so many choices. It's taken several hours to decide on one but here is what I'd chose.

I'd go back to Chambers County, Alabama in the late 1890's when my great-grandparents, Joseph Smith Lanier and Nancy Jane Bennett decided to move to Mississippi. I'd make that trip across Alabama to Monroe County, Mississippi with them and stay with them for a few months afterward.

So many of my questions could have surely been answered during that time period.   

1. How did they travel? Horse and wagon? Train?
2. Who actually made the trip? Did daughters, Lula and Emma, get married before the move and remain in the Chambers County area (like I suspect even though they were listed with the family in Mississippi in the 1900 census)? If so, who did they marry? 
3. Why Monroe County, Mississippi? Did they know where they were going when they left Chambers County or just head west and decide to stop when they got to Monroe County?
4. How did the family end up living on the Watkins Plantation with Joseph and the older boys working as tenant farmers? Was this arranged before the move or after they got to Mississippi?
5. If it was after they got to Mississippi, where and how did they live in the meantime?
6. When was my grandfather and his 1st wife's child born? Boy or girl? Name? 

I'm sure I have more questions but that's a good start on what I'd like to know.

Surname Saturday - Minor

Today's surname is Minor, the name of my 7th great-grandmother.

5. Verda Waller Hankins
10. Thomas Leander Hankins
21. Isabella Jane Goodloe
42. John Emerson Goodloe
84. Henry Lewis Goodloe
168. Thomas Allen Goodloe
336. Henry Goodloe

673. Diana Minor
Born 22 Jun 1710, Middlesex County, Virginia
Married George Goodloe 13 Jul 1728, Christchurch, Middlesex County, Virginia
Died abt. 1748, Caroline County, Virginia

1346. Garrett Minor
Born 1679
Married Diana Vivian 17 Oct 1706
Died 20 Feb 1720/21, Middlesex County, Virginia

2692. Doodes Minor
Born abt. 1640, Holland
Married Elizabeth Cocke
Died abt. 1694, Middlesex County, Virginia

5384. Maindort Doodes
Born in Holland
Married Mary Gerett
Died Jan 1677/78, Middlesex County, Virginia

Click on the links above for sources and possibly additional information on each ancestor and their families. If you have a connection, e-mail me.

Wednesday, September 15, 2010

Wordless Wednesday - Taylor Siblings

Front: Lou and Bob; Back: Nannie and Lena

Lou, Bob and Nannie were children of James Francis Taylor and Margaret E. Ramsey. Lena was Lou's daughter. This picture was probably made about 1908. Lou later married Preston Fralick and Nannie later married Henry Harrison.

Photo courtesy of the late George Fredrick Thompson, grandson of Lou, Bob & Nannie's sister, Martha Ann "Mollie" Taylor Riickert.

Tuesday, September 14, 2010

Tombstone Tuesday - Robert and Mary M. Taylor

Providence Cemetery, Rockcastle County, Kentucky
Come Ye Blessed
Robert Taylor
Feb. 18, 1827 - Sept. 18, 1906
Mary M. Taylor
July 8, 1834 - Jan. 12, 1926

Robert Taylor was the son of William Taylor and Martha "Patsy" Ramsey. His wife was Mary Margaret Parsons.

Sunday, September 12, 2010

This Week in the Family History - September 12 - 18

12 Sep 1800 (210 years ago) - John Malone and Gracie Eaves obtained a marriage bond in Rutherford County, North Carolina and were probably married within a few days of this date. John's parents are unknown. Gracie was the daughter of Burwell Eaves and Izza Malone. [4th great-grandparents, Lanier line]

16 Sep 1660 (350 years ago) - Deborah Buckland was born, probably in Massachusetts or Rhode Island. She was the daughter of Joseph Buckland and Deborah Allen. [9th great-grandmother, Hopkins line]

Saturday, September 11, 2010

Surname Saturday - Mason

Today's surname is Mason, the surname of one of my 6th great-grandmothers.

6. Elmer Dennis Hopkins
12. James Arton Hopkins
25. Eliza Hopkins
50. Stephen Hopkins, Jr.
100. Stephen Hopkins, Sr.
201. Elizabeth Cole

403. Freelove Mason
Born 14 Nov 1720, Swansea, Bristol County, Massachusetts
Married Joseph Cole 1 May 1738, Swansea, Bristol County, Massachusetts

806. Joseph Mason
Married Elizabeth Barney 3 Jun 1714, Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts

It's obvious that I haven't done much work on this line or really any of the related Hopkins and Cole lines in New England. While writing this post, I spent a few minutes in the New England Historic Genealogical Society online databases and added a couple of facts. [Note: Membership is required to access their online databases.] I really need to spend some serious time on the NEHGS website.

Click on the links above for sources and possibly additional information on each ancestor and their families. The new information found today won't be included in those links. The source for the birth and marriage of Freelove Mason is:
Vital Records of Swansea, Massachusetts to 1850 (Online database:, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2004), (Orig. Pub. Boston, Massachusetts, NEHGS, Vital Records of Swansea, Massachusetts to 1850. Transcribed by H.L.Peter Rounds; edited by Jane Fletcher Fiske and Margaret F. Costello, 1992 )
If you have a connection, e-mail me.

Friday, September 10, 2010

Talk To Me People!

After spending some time earlier this week reviewing blog stats (something I rarely do) I became somewhat frustrated. Why do people who land on this blog because of a search for a specific ancestor leave without saying a word? In addition to the comments feature, a link to my e-mail address is right there in the sidebar along with a link to my website which has links to my e-mail address all over the place. It's not like I'm hard to find (although I have now moved those links a little higher up on the page just in case that was a problem).

I'm not talking about the people who searched for Celia Owens, Eliza Hopkins, Finney Genealogy, the Goodloe's of Spotsylvania County or even Albert Elvie Hankins. Granted I have matches for them but maybe not the person they wanted.

I'm talking about really specific searches like these:
1) "Troup County 1850 Census Lewis Bennett" and "Lewis H Bennett marriage to Teresa Garrett." There is no doubt they were looking for my 3rd great-grandparents, Lewis H. and Teresa (maiden name unproven but possibly Garrett) Bennett of Troup County, Georgia.

2) "Dorothy Waller or Dorothy * Waller or Waller, Dorothy genealogy or ancestry 1754" and "Thomas Allen Goodloe or Thomas Allen * Goodloe or Goodloe, Thomas Allen 1754 1812." They had to be looking for my 5th great-grandparents, Thomas Allen Goodloe and Dorothy Waller. Thomas was born in 1754; his will was written in 1812 and probated in 1813.

3) "John Covey WarJack Howard." My 2nd great-grandfather was John Covey Howard and his father was John "War Jack" Howard. Some say War Jack's middle name was also Covey but even though I'm not so sure about that, there's little doubt he is the person they wanted.

4) "Henry Goodloe + Kemp." Almost certainly they were looking for my 6th great-grandparents, Henry Goodloe and Frances Diana Kemp. Or possibly they were looking for their grandson, Henry Lewis Goodloe who named his oldest son Thomas Kemp Goodloe. Even though this search happened on a different day, they might have been the same person searching for Henry and Frances' son, Thomas Allen Goodloe. If so, they made 3 searches that landed them here. 

5) "Emma Taylor Hopkins, Loyall KY." That is my grandmother for crying out loud!

Does this happen to other bloggers? Does anyone have suggestions for enticing people to make contact? (I know, probably a good suggestion would be don't rant about them in a post but I really am just confused.)

Thursday, September 9, 2010

Treasure Chest Thursday - Newspapers (Part 6)

More treasures from newspapers.

From the Earlington Bee, Hopkins County, Kentucky:

19 Mar 1903: Lee Hankins, of Dalton, Ky., a brother of Sheriff Hankins, has moved to this place and will reside here in the future. Mr. Hankins was a substantial citizen of Dalton and made many friends while there. We welcome him to Earlington.

16 Apr 1903: The General Baptist church of this place has called Lee Hankins to be pastor.

14 Apr 1904: Mr. Lee Hankins is having a new house put up towards Earlington.

4 Aug 1904: Rev. Lee Hankins has quit preaching and gone to picking blackberries.

11 Aug 1904: Someone entered Lee Hankin's house Friday and took three gallons of blackberries.

Before I found these little newspaper blurbs, I knew that my great grandfather, Thomas Leander "Lee" Hankins was a Baptist minister, that the family lived at Dalton in Hopkins County, Kentucky and moved to Earlington (also in Hopkins County) at some point. By searching the Earlington Bee, I learned that they moved to Earlington in March, 1903 for Lee to become the pastor at the General Baptist Church there and he had a new house built about a year after moving there. 

I also learned that Lee took a break from preaching to pick blackberries in 1904. I'm pretty sure that wasn't meant to be a permanent change in occupation as you can only pick blackberries for a short time in Kentucky and actually August seems a little late to even find many blackberries. At any rate, I also learned that if you are picking blackberries you shouldn't have it mentioned in the paper because someone may break into your house and steal them.

These clips were found using the searchable newspaper collection at Kentuckiana Digital LibraryKentucky papers in this collection are also available through the Library of Congress' Chronicling America(Both of these sites are free.)

Tuesday, September 7, 2010

Tombstone Tuesday - Elizabeth Taylor Ramsey

Ramsey Taylor Cemetery, Renfro Valley, Rockcastle County, Kentucky

wife of Matt Ramsey
1837 - 1901

Elizabeth Taylor was the daughter of William Taylor and Martha "Patsy" Ramsey, the wife of Madison Ramsey and the mother of 4 children. She died on 23 Dec 1900 in Rockcastle County.

Monday, September 6, 2010

Labor Day - The Jobs of My Ancestors

Farmers, farmers, farmers, more farmers. That was my 1st thought about the jobs of my ancestors. When I really stopped to look I found a few other occupations but my first impression was pretty accurate. Out of 28 ancestors over 4 generations, there were 25 farmers although 6 of them had another job for at least a short time or as a supplement to farming. 

4. John William McCauley - farmer, coal miner
6. Elmer Dennis Hopkins - railroader
7. Emma Ewers Taylor - teacher, post office clerk, bank clerk, postmistress

8. Joseph Smith Lanier - farmer
10. Thomas Leander Hankins - farmer, Baptist minister
12. James Arton Hopkins - farmer
14. John Cook Taylor - farmer, blacksmith

16. William Washington Lanier - farmer
18. John T. Bennett - farmer
20. Albert Hankins - farmer
22. John R. Petty - farmer
26. John Covey Howard - farmer
28. James Francis Taylor - farmer, wagonmaker
30. Madison Crawford Owens - farmer

32. James Lanier - farmer
34. Samuel Jackson - farmer, carpenter
36. Lewis Bennett - farmer
38. David Gamble - farmer
40. Houston Hankins - farmer
42. John Emerson Goodloe - farmer
46. Jesse Thomas - farmer, miner
50. Stephen Hopkins, Jr. - farmer
52. John Howard - farmer
54. Littleton Morris - farmer
56. William Taylor - farmer
58. Thomas Ramsey, Jr. - blacksmith
60. Alfred Owens - farmer
62. Wesley Owens - farmer

To find an unusual occupation among my ancestors, you have to go back to my 10th great-grandfather, Nicholas Lanier. Nicholas was a musican in the Court of King Henry II of France and the Courts of Queen Elizabeth I and King James I of England. In 1604 he was named Musician of the Flutes. Several of his sons and grandsons were also court musicians.

Information about Nicholas Lanier from "Lanier, A Genealogy of the family who came to Virginia and their French ancestors in London" by Louise Ingersoll (Washington, D. C.: Goetz Printing Company, 1965). For sources on the other occupations, see my website.

Sunday, September 5, 2010

This Week in the Family History - September 5 - 11

7 Sep 1748 (262 years ago) - Mary Dabney Carr died in Virginia. Mary was the daughter of Cornelius Dabney and Susannah (maiden name unproven) and the wife of Capt. Thomas Carr. [7th great-grandmother, Hankins line]

7 Sep 1953 (57 years ago) - John Cook Taylor died in Mt. Vernon, Rockcastle County, Kentucky. John was the son of James Francis Taylor and Margaret E. Ramsey. He was married three time - 1st to Sarah A. Ramsey, 2nd to Margaret Francis Warren and 3rd to Emma Jane Owens. [great-grandfather, Taylor line]

Click on the links for sources and more information.

Saturday, September 4, 2010

Surname Saturday - Nash

Today's surname is Nash, the name of one of my 6th great-grandmothers. (Ahnentafel numbers included to make the relationships clearer.)

5. Verda Waller Hankins
10. Thomas Leander Hankins
21. Isabella Jane Goodloe
43. Eliza Ann Dobyns
86. Edward Dobyns
172. Edward Dobyns

345. Sarah Nash
Married Charles Dobyns abt. 1723
Died 26 Sep 1768

690. Thomas Nash
Died abt 1733, Richmond County, Virginia

1380. William Nash
Married Ann (maiden name unknown).

Click on the links above for sources and possibly additional information on each ancestor and their families. If you have a connection, e-mail me.

Thursday, September 2, 2010

The Content Wars

This week's Open Thread Thursday post by Thomas MacEntee at GeneaBloggers deals with the issues surrounding the practice of acquiring access to holdings and digitizing them for online for free or fee and the impact on societies. Thomas' questions are restated below in bold. Once I started writing, my comments seemed like too much for the GeneaBlogger comments section. 

1. Once a collection of documents is digitized and indexed, should they be made available to researchers for free or for fee? This means they would either follow the FamilySearch (free) or the Ancestry (fee) models. Note: there are many other vendors and providers bother free and fee - I am only using the most recognizable vendors as examples.

This issue of free vs fee is one that boggles my mind. I've heard people say they would never pay for an online subscription because the records should be free. Do those people really think that a company should pay to digitize and index records, maintain server space and hire staff to keep it all running just for the joy of making researchers happy? Or do they think the government should spend the massive amount of money it would take to put all records online for free? 

Granted FamilySearch is a great resource but most of their online information today is in the form of indexes rather than actual records so their free site really can't compete with some of the fee based sites for now. Even FamilySearch charges a fee to send microfilm to a facility near you so while their website is free all of their services related to records aren't. 

2. Does it matter if the documents themselves are in the public domain when it comes to charging a fee for access? Does a good index and search mechanism add value to the record set, to the point of justifying fee for access?

Certainly a good index and search mechanism adds value to a set of records. Anyone who has ever cranked through a roll of microfilm looking for one specific record can attest to that. 

In my opinion it does not matter if the documents are in the public domain when it comes to charging access fees. When has access to public domain records ever been free? I've never been to a library or courthouse that didn't charge for copies and it costs me anywhere from a few gallons of gas to several nights in a motel to get to them, not to mention the cost of my time. Even if I stay at home and order records, many repositories charge a research fee in addition to the copy charges and then I have to wait weeks or even months before the record is in my hand. 

3. Think about the holdings that genealogical or historical societies have. Should they place access behind a members-only website, even if the documents are in the public domain? What about making the index free but the images members-only?

Societies that put indexes and/or records online are spending money to do that so they certainly have every right to restrict access to their members. They also have good reason to do so. If they make their holdings freely accessible online, where is the incentive for anyone to join the organization? Small societies are already having trouble keeping their heads above water so putting even an index online may be out of reach for most of them. Most larger societies are unlikely to have the funding to digitize their entire holdings even for members only access but if a society can afford it, a free online index could possibly bring in new members.

4. Let's say that 20 years from now, most records of use to genealogists are digitized and accessible - either free or fee. What will genealogy vendors need to offer consumers to keep them engaged in genealogy? What will genealogical societies need to do to survive if their public domain holdings are made available for free? 

If all records were online then genealogy vendors could spend all of their time on improving indexes and search functionality but they might not have to do much to keep consumers engaged. After all, when EVERYTHING is available their products will be much more valuable than they are today with only a small fraction of everything being available. When (if) we ever get to this point, probably very few societies will survive. The ones who do will likely be those offering workshops, conferences, seminars and other social gatherings. 

To summarize:
When I decide to subscribe to an online service, I'm not just paying for the records. I'm also paying for the convenience of having access to those records 24/7 and for the instant gratification of having a record within seconds of requesting it. I'm satisfied that the subscription fees I've paid are a bargain compared to what it would have cost in time and money to obtain the same records from dozens of separate repositories. 

Would it be great if every record a genealogist could possibly want to see was online for free? Sure. Is that likely to ever happen? No. The bottom line is that it costs money to get records online so if records are going to be online someone has to pay the price and it's not unreasonable for that someone to be the end user.  

Now, I need to spend a couple of hours looking at census records - without getting out of my chair. 

Disclaimer: I currently pay for subscriptions to several fee based sites. I've never received anything free from any of them except for the occasional introductory offer that is available to everyone.

Treasure Chest Thursday - Newspapers (Part 5)

More treasures from newspapers.

The clippings featured the past two weeks covered things I've learned about my grandmother's brother, A. E. "Elvie" Hankins. Today's post is the 3rd and last one about Uncle Elvie. Previous clips showed he lived in Kansas City, Missouri and East St. Louis, Illinois between 1902 - 1904 before moving back home to Hopkins County, Kentucky, apparently without his wife, Ella Edmonds Hankins. Once back in Hopkins County he quit working for L & N Railroad in 1905.

Fast forward 16 years to a clipping passed down in the family showing another marriage for Elvie. This wedding announcement is from an unknown newspaper in Idaho, probably sent by Elvie to his parents back in Hopkins County. 

 Marriage Announcement:
On December 24th, 1921, at Caldwell, Idaho, Mr. Albert E. Hankins and Mrs. Harriet E. Massey, both of Nampa, Idaho, were united in marriage. Mrs. Hankins is the daughter of Mr. and mrs. John R. Ellis, of Jerome, and is well known and popular here.
The newly married couple are making a visit this week at the home of the bride's parents in Jerome. Mrs. Hankins is one of the teachers in the Nampa city schools and will complete the school year as such.
Mr. Hankins holds the responsible position of general yard master of  the Oregon Short Line railroad at Nampa and is an old employe of the company. He is a former service man, having served eighteen months with the American expeditionary forces in France.
Many Jerome friends will extend their congratulations and best wishes to Mr. and Mrs. Hankins. 

In addition to giving the name of another of Elvie's wives, his employer and location where he was living, this announcement validates the following clips are really Uncle Elvie.

From the Idaho Statesman, Boise, Idaho:

15 Nov 1922, Red Cross Drive Gets Underway: A. E. Hankins is in charge of the campaign among employes of the Short Line.

26 Dec 1922: Mr. and Mrs. A. E. Hankin stopped a day with Mrs. Hankin's parents, Mr. and Mrs. J. R. Ellis, while en route from Kentucky to their home in Nampa. The two small daughters returned with them.

So Elvie married Harriett Ellis Massey in December 1921 in Caldwell, Idaho. He was again working for a railroad, this time the Oregon Short Line and was still employed by them the following November when he led the company Red Cross drive. Elvie and Harriet visited his parent in Kentucky in December, 1922 and her parents lived in Jerome, Idaho. 

Elvie was a bit of a black sheep so these little clips fill in a few of the blanks about his life. I don't know what happened to Harriet but do know that he had at least two more wives after her.

Marriage announcement from unidentified newspaper courtesy of Sue Morgan London from the collection of papers belonging to her mother (Elvie's niece), Helen Hankins Morgan. Clips from the Idaho Statesman are from the searchable newspaper collection of Genealogy Bank.

Wednesday, September 1, 2010

Wordless Wednesday - Harriett L. Ramsey Proctor

Harriett L. Ramsey was the daughter of Thomas Ramsey, Jr. and Rhoda Ann Lavender. She was born on 19 May 1844, married John J. Proctor on 4 Apr 1883 and died on 13 Mar 1915, all in Rockcastle County, Kentucky. Harriett and John had no children.

These posts should probably be titled "Less Words" Wednesday instead of "Wordless". Photo courtesy of the late G. F. Thompson of Salem, Oregon.